Monday, 18 July 2011

Nursing of activsts??

Nursing of activsts??

ok,so since there, to be, seems, a group to nurse activists on here this litterally attacks, all questions about formula feeding please answer the following one:
How you can assume a woman, who is INCAPABLE, in order to produce BREASTMILK to nourish her/its/their child in your mentally sick world??? finishes you request to attack these poor women, who already are DESPERATELY over it, to be INCAPABLE to nurse, and tries, as her/its/their CHILDREN is not to be harmed to be calculated!!!

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I hate breast Nazi\'s. myself got so very much * * * * from women, who don\'t nurse any problem at all over resigning, had. You/they had no idea this something my Umstände or, how painfully it was for me, no it wasn\'t my damn handle, you get over it, you tyrannize!)

I had an interductual yeast infection, my child was in NICU and had a really high palette and GURD, that could hold down none milk anyways. I lent ALWAYS been become saturated painfully how much 6 weeks long and no matter I. In the end, my yeast infection was so bad, thereß I 24/7 literally pumped. I needed to pump three hours, because so painfully it and my son with any three was. I würde gives only my mother or his/its father one bottle and continues to pump. I had many lactation advisor verfügbar to me and they all agreed that it was for the best.

The can all the nursing Nazi\'s removes high horse from thier, because they had such experiances wonderful, and been able to continue, until her/its/their child is 5 bullshit. My son got formula, he/it, survived nad, he/it is healthy, and I am healthy. Yes Brust is ouchßer breast isn at the besten\'t always available.
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It be difficult in this world to remember what for a bouquet of the people of sick perverse disposition her/it/them..... also introduces you itself those people raise children...... this sucks....
Save to! ! RSS Belinda milfinda Nice answer. The formula quantity always does a Strauß of spelling and grammar mistakes. Close?

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Astragal. Hmm... I was gefütterte formula and has a BA in English... this debate will go before itself and on and I choose no more to be nice over this matter. Some bevölkern, esp. bfers, that itself like she/it anfühlt, thinks again too different, you don\'t earn it.

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Belinda milfinda me was given the milk by straight cow, and I got my BM at a full trip. Then wählte I, to nurse my own children. Be middle if you want to it. Sie\'wieder not the single.

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from MeL HAHAHAHA!! I is per nursing, but I jargon places itself down, that could not make it physical, somebody offers... the single time, from which I notice, that I reduced "her/it/them for him/it, am in my mind, not from loud, if they say, they feel strange over it, therefore she/it lived you do it....
Obviously formula lived, babies survive in this world..

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27 weeks with #2!

through xoxo2u i-Brust lived 2 weeks long, and it was only not for me... is my baby on formula and i knows, you the breast feeding people over what my,... lol...... even if she/it produces milk cn besides becase - "lives, to serve two jobs for her/its/their child, and the reality, and other children" get in in the manner, they take the trouble, you, to do feeling like a bad parent,....
it only ignores i... un a big parent and an understanding one..... which brings me to being surprised at those women, because they seem to have no one understanding at all,..... i-Gefühl sad about her/its/their kis, if they become older,... if jargon then has you an election or an opinion, they are long route into forums!!! LOL

and to "dont, you touch me", of course his/its being lazy, if serves u 2 jobs and has 3 children,... thats only the word i saw for it"..., role -

through. vato. Yes, I saw, thereß she/it and I of them sick is done. Please understand, thereß itself not all nursing activists in such an unripe and impolite way behaves. If you want women to nurse you, you she/it thereover trains. You/they place auf\'t sits and deals there thinks or pretends, you, it is easy. Es\'s not always easily. It doesn\'t does considers a person. There are also, a time, left people as you has, meets her/its/their own decisions. There is only so much, thereß you before it can do, s-Belästigung.

Each mother will decide that something is the best for her/its/their child whether it is to be nursed or formula feed. Devils, I, \'ve seen Mütter that can simply not nurse for medical reasons. You/they können\'t, because they were raped or were bothered. You/they have such a difficult time to even keep it in mind to do it. Das\'s-Zustimmung. It gives other women, that simply of m not the ideaögen. Das\'s-Geldstrafe. your child won\'t die because they had formula. PERIOD.

I believe, if wants to nurse a wife and has a difficult time, if other BF-Frauen should help out. We should show them, like the problems too l, to look after it for eyelets, instead of to bring her/it/them to it, like a failure, to even think about it, to change to formula, is.

Breast milk is the best. Each weiß this. Nobody in her/its/their correct mind can say, thereß es\'s not. It doesn\'t-Mitte it always is the correct election für a mother. We müssen stops to do the nursing of such a Nerven-wracking-Sache. Eagerly, it should be something, with which the woman is comfortable, to be done, and fähig, to do. Not something, which is forced. Germ, some women have nach-partum-Depression serious and Anger, because they feel, that they must nurse. Is für the child so the best, to have a mother, who resents her/it/them? No! Is dafür so the best this of everyone? No!

Anyway, I agree with you. Mütter [who doesn\'t abuse her/its/their children] Sticks together you/they each other regardless of circumstance and helps. These women müssen holds the mouth and helps instead of hurting others with her/its/their hideous words.

Process, I want to make it only clear that training from people and some of the answers, at which I looked, here completely different is. Some people love, itself sarcastically too ergießen, condescending, impolite, egotistical junk everyone, where this doesn\'t train or helps somebody. That is this for something ich\'m, the ungef,ähr talks, and I think this, about what the poster also talks, is!

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I am very much per nursing. Call me a nursing activist, but you please place auf\'t generalizes me with the ignoramus and pompnamed eyelets with it activists!

through nightyni... I agrees you completely.... women, who are incapable, to produce milk must have a way to nourish her/its/their babies. All babies have a right to good Ernährung, does as well like all people. The BEST-Ernährung in the world then a baby is his/its Mutter\'s-Milch.

Quite, the single people grasped on YA, that I saw, "" at, is breastfeeders for different reasons. BF in Public, when not disaccustoming by 6 months, co and so on asleep, I place really auf\'t believes, that I ever saw, that any FF-Mama, that" is "attacked, is the way breastfeeders.

IF you are the 1 percent of women there in one, whoever doesn\'t produce any breastmilk and really wants to work as a nurse, I am sorry. IF you are a mother, that wählt, her/its/their child with one bottle and a stretches inferior milk substitute, that to nourish, \'s HER/ITS/THEIR decision. Please place auf\'t, that of us criticizes whoever didn\'t make this decision.

from ShellyC, that I agree with you, however, is the actual number of women, who are physically or medically INCAPABLE, to nurse her/its/their children, extremely low. Women often become, from her/its/their Doctors or friends, informs incorrectly over nursing and is thought that a small relapse-equal, that is not capable, to nurse. One of this small Lügen, that doctors tell, is that not your enough child meal is gotten, and that you have to formula feed, that leads to a compromised milk supply, that leads too unsuccessful nursing. Women müssen on on itself takes to be trained over nursing and the dangers, associated with formula. Too much one of both softness on too früh or places auf\'t tries at all. That is which brands I over the formula mommies sick.

through Jennifer... I is a "lactivist"(see avatar, and proud of it. In a perfect world there wäre absolutely NO need of artificially produced baby milk. I würde it loves, if each woman was capable to nurse her/its/their child successfully, until said, that child was willing to disaccustom. But, this können Sie\'t happens. I fa God sends me, that formula is, ühle that 1 percent of woman, who is PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE from it, to nourish her/its/their child. Although still I me fühle, I would be better, white breastmilk so donated that everyone is not comfortable with it.

I don\'t look badly for being a straight out, * * * * * to women, who admit, that they simply didn\'t want either", or no milk could produce" and could supplement the whole time her/its/their child with artificial milk. ICH\'m sorrowfully, but that is simply idiotic. I cannot wrap up my head honestly around, why a woman her/its/their child the best mögliche nutrition gives, didn\'t want.

I have also hearing so enough the apologies, if I me, that am done by my on-line birth committee, that overpowered ASTONISHING chances, its offspring to give breastmilk, 2 friends(that has. 5 years had one of this a double mastectomy ago(at in 27, and wanted to nurse nothing more than her/its/their baby, as she/it had made 3 with her/its/their prior ones. The Mad, little on my birth committee prohibited "Kyndal \'s Kows" together to refine, and sent to our friend breastmilk. Her/its/their daughter(now 10 months old, erg only still becomes with formulaänzt. Another friend of me found out, thereß her/its/their child a gap taste had. It became for her toover said and across from medical pros, who would not be capable to nourish her/its/their child with her/its/their breast she/it, ever. She/it did each Stückchen research, that she/it could, and although her/its/their son was born 5 weeks permature, he/it never has been supplemented with formula once. UndUnd after his/its single 5 days stay in the NICU now worked successfully 1/2 months long as a nurse he/it with the breast in 3.

Mother need, to take the trouble! If still this woman its offspring breastmilk füttern can, I place auf\'t wants to hear all apologies.

through Belinda milfinda is in this group only one very tiny percent of the women. Most women become more than enough milk with the correct information and the lowermostützung produces. Das\'s what we should give here. So many women need only a small special lowermostützung!

It is another small group of women capable to produce any breastmilk. Maybe sufficiently not, a Säugling, to support, but this milk, that can produce her/it/them, is so useful. There are many ways, baby, to give the milk, that you do, können, during supplementing with donor milk or formula.

Most illnesses can be treated effectively while baby certainly remains on the breast. No matter what is the illness maybe, there are sure alternatives from there. With research, a qualified doctor can find the best course of the treatment. Doctors and patients also must think to weigh the risks of the formula when they decide how mommy is to be treated, s-Krankheit.

We attack nothing but ignorance, that were begun from formula companies, and insist, because formula companies tell everyone not to do any formula mommies, * feeling bad. * does you over nursing any reading. Read the formula society propaganda, you then read, the research based information. Sie\'ll finds, thereß the formula companies a world of denial and enmity created. And we continue to buy the magazines with her/its/their advertisments, we continue, that to take home * free test * from formula für all cases, and effective mommies keep that, if they meet a problem silence with him/it, they only should give up. Formula is not sufficiently well für my family.

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The baby book of William Sears
The nursing book of Martha Sears
The extremely nursing book of answers of Newman and Pitman
The womanly Art, to nurse pub through La Leche League internationally,

through happychi... i agrees completely with you... during un everything for nursing, and estimated it sufficiently happily in order to be capable for it that is this jargon really unjustly to be pursued. not only, thereß, it is an election, that should be respected one of both way, it believes or a couple of the times for it was not attacked i to choose to nurse my eldest daughter until she/it was 9 months. a friend of me fühlte itself with breasfeeding probably, therefore chose to put aside her/it/them on the bottle straight.. i-Mitte, i dont thinks his/its value, that takes the trouble to nurse, if is going to stress the mother. un all für education and support, regardless of the mother\'s choice/ability... sad about this curses you!

through cathrl69, I can see there from where they come. My first baby was SO simple. Show baby with breast, baby snaps on it, baby sucks, baby hält, if baby goes fully to sleep. I really couldn\'t understands, like everyone so selfishly, to do, could not be, thereß for her/its/their baby.

And then, I had my second. The Stillen\'s easily, right, plus I wußte already something, to do,... it never just occurred to me, that it could be a problem. It was a catastrophe of day one, and it went on and on and on. Even decided vollständig to quiet, I couldn\'t gets beyond twelve weeks.

Very few women are incapable, breastmilk to produce. But there are many others completely gültige reasons, why maybe they are not successfully capable to nurse. Could do as far as I out, and I had stack of help and lowermostützung, my baby simply wasndafür very good \'t. sure, the Stillen\'s the best matter, in order to do,... in an ideal world. But dort\'s over as much point in the narrative that tells as there a mommy, that needed one C-Teil in order to protect her/its/their baby\'s life, to a mommy, that are tried, and didn\'t nurse, that she/it should go for a natural birth.

But..., if you wonder, whether even you, because of all problems, that you hear about it, should try to nurse,... troubles you for itself. If it works right, \'s the best, least stressful matter of the earth. But if it doesn\'t, it is not the end of the world.

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Mommy of 2.

from Mary May i didn\'t propose you in subtle way so, that breast feeding is the answer to all the baby woe. i führte my first hell from. i inverted nipples and gets a bad case of mastitis..., but it never stopped me. i muß say that these sometimes are even adoptive mothers capable to nurse with a lactation advisor\'s help. the chance of you, the physically not fähig is to be produced, is so tiny. it normally is a lack of confidence and Nervosität, the mothers away steer. i understands, thereß children, who have hindrances, someday a challenge, to nurse, can be, and i identifies itself and supports those mothers. if you are in good health and you, child is in good health and developmentally fähig......... her/its/their really isn\'t an apology. the reason then Mütter, to nurse, sometimes gets in in an anger, that is:
1. es\'s natürliche and complete nutrition
2. let\'s take much flack dafür, to nurse in public, wanted you to eat your dinner in a restaurant bathroom? my baby didn\'t likes it,
3. es\'s a großes commitment should want against your child, who does each mother, that it helps you to bind. a newborn doesn\'t have any größere joy, as it eats, feels it big for itself, that to make available.

as far as my "mentally sick world"........ I really enjoys it.

through dark eyes, I nursed my children for as it, you yearn as I could. As somebody f canür this not silence another mother judges, as I a baby with my breast and that did other seats on the toilet, that needs its churn, wiped???

Not only that, like many works, women allow that prepares the time, her/its/their breasts and a clean surroundings in order to make ihn/es? How certainly and it is clean to place your breast into a bathroom stall there and to pump? ICH\'d uses the formula the impurity as risk sooner to pump my breast into a bathroom stall.

everything for nursing is from Mitza i and if there then is a rightful reason for formula, this also is fine... it is much more useful, that you know? but my sister after law says her/it/them können you doesn\'t nurse, because she/it produces milk sufficiently not. das\'s BS if of St she/itörte, to take the trouble, she/it could, she/it is simply lazy and doesn\'t have any affection for her/its/their children... really sad. and this thinks i is why i wanna-Schub that nurses so very much. Cause of the people like she/it...

However, breast milk is the best it, you understand completely if a \'rightful apology\' for bottle feeding is for her/it/them

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through? Pleasan.... PersI looked at formula mommies önlich like very impolite and judgemental-Antworten as well as I have nursing mommies. Answers mögen, "eww that is" unrefined or enjoys "your saggy * * * * " or judgments on, like long a woman, to nurse, chooses, or that a woman bf in public and the settlement of it then with deficating, and so on impolite and judgemental-Anmerkungen, doesn\'t should, while normally little and between, only part of being is on a public forum.

Typically, the most "lactivists" simply tries on this forum, other mothers, to provide information, help, with MAINTAINING, encouragement, and him/it AH SO USUAL myths, to entertain, associated with nursing. Betrpractice b/f this hospitals left only 60 percent of woman, and still nurses less than half of this number after some months (CDC-Prozenten), because of the whole misinformation, that drive approximately. These numbers können for many people, that know the benefits of the quiet and see, frustrates that so much woman gives up because of the misinformation, that often them from doctors and loved is given!)

I will be the first personally somebody to close down, that takes the trouble to uphold ignorance. But, you are right, thereß most mothers land, \'t earns, "", not to be attacked silence for this.

from Astragal... I says those women "buzz away." You places auf\'t tried to understand, that the situations and self of other people increase, in that they lay down others. I bf 3 months long and mußte hold and felt so guilty about it because I was some women on here kept claiming selfishly. I then continued, over a thousand dollar, to spend, to trouble about itself, to uphold my supply with herbs, pumps, nursing systems, special bottles, and so on it didn\'t works, unfortunately. My son is healthy and glad and ich\'m much gladder emphasizes over bfing.
If conserve bf for you, you definitely should take the trouble, but if you don\'t can, then this also is fine. Jeder\'s-Situation is different and we, as of M itselfütter should trouble to support each other.

* * I loves Vato\'s answer. I wünsche, that she/it was around for me, as I looked for help. Even my doctor couldn\'t helps me. My lc told me that it was O.K., about because of the burden, that I caused me and my son, to hold. Thanks so very für this answer.

Jen B., that like your friends finish speaking, had a big support system and was capable for collecting many information. Not everyone is in this situation unfortunately. I doubt, thereWorked of ß wholeness time these two women or hardly over the poverty line lived. We müssen us troubles, an understanding of EVERYONE to schaffen\'s-Situation and not only bases our judgment against the few people, whom we know. I am correct the majority to the people, who do it, because they don\'t want you to it", a reason for worry is.

* * * Also Jen B., that I see of prior answers, that formula nourished you your first child because of a lack of information and management. How können you as fast as forgets desperately and emphasized, that you then were back? Many women now are in similar situations. I würde you, to have more pity and to offer more management, expects.

from Bomb_che... I dont has a problem with women, who are really incapable from nursing.

I have a problem with the fact that I almost came each formula provider across here, and in real life, she/it claims that nurses couldnt. This% from women, who really don\'t nurse, können, is minutely tiny, but based for you on that, what you see here, \'d believes, that all women with defective breasts were born.

A really bad example gives this, and again making or, to be soon, mothers believe that nursing is impossible. With the right one lowermostützung and even mothers, who have a hard time with first, can continue the education to have a successful nursing relationship.

IchIch only wishes that mommies would admit to the truth upward. If you wählten, not to nurse, you give the real reasons. Dont erhält this ready as mind upright, that nursing is only possible for one small percent of the women, if the opposite is the truth.

If more women were trained right and were supported over nursing, is wouldnt so many problems there. Those, the information itself only bemühen leaves to share it in hopes, that maybe a mother struggling itself comes upon it and finds the soloution, him/it she/it successful must be.

More nursed babies in this world my a healthier world. Thats all each mother wants.

from My3Boys Well said.

The lactation advisor held my sister a beautiful middle lecture, as she/it finally had to pull the needle, and formula lives after a few weeks of hell with her/its/their newborn. She/it tried everything... sometimes it doesn\'t works out.

through E Und E... I understands really not, why this is such a question with the whole other shit and the abuse, that happen to children in our world. We ALL know, you nurse this, is the best... even if we became didn\'t pregnant as ourselves, fühlt much ppl, even strangers, that they should tell you asking without you. But it was my Verständnis, as I joined answers, that it was for answers, and NOT judgment. If somebody asks a question, ie regarding the bottles, why it is, thereß any pplscheinen \'s-Antworten, to debase the person, who asked, or, to hold a lecture? Asks she/he maybe, so that she/it feed HER/ITS/THEIR baby breast milk abfüllen can,....

I believe that we should start to answer the questions, that are asked, and that, that asks therefore, our HELP offer,... not brand, that she/it feel badly. NOBODY is perfect or is forums like answers there wouldn\'t!!

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from LilMomma... feeds you to your child something. I really dont-Sorge if you him/it breast milk or formula füttern, maybe that is not good for you, what is good for me, and vis versa. Only dont ließ the child starve!!!

through mom2jjor.... Blah Blah Blah

Heal Breastmilk!

from Tanya, while it is possible for a woman to be physically incapable,... IT EXTREMELY is RARE

the usual reasons are if you had a mastectomy or a massive breast reduction,...

we are from mentally sick far, btw.

we are simply tired, sick and tired from bad nursing information, that is distributed,... I has more than once in my real life and at this forum thanked from a formula feeding mother, who recognized, that her/its/their doctor was stupid, and the wrong information gave her/it/them and as she/it my advice to a real lactation advisor for the IBCLC after her/its/their name took, she/it, that was really used, got her/it/them the help and wanted and continued nursing.

I understand, that some attack, and that is impolite. But most of us only try to lie from the facts to lie from the information, that should be given us by the medical community, and, to hope, thereß even mothers dermonatelang nursing again from it attempt resigned \'ve.... maybe you are surprised in order to know that, even if you nursed only one month long, and your baby now is 8 months, can continue you nursing, if you really take the trouble,... nursing so is a possible solution for the questions, that is even announced over formula.

it is especially crucial to me to share this type of information with mothers, who are desperately over it, to be incapable to nurse,... she/it really often is committed to doing it, but got only the wrong info, and it is not working... if he/it is given the correct info, they can still do it if they want to take the trouble.

If more women gave more reasons, why they are incapable,..., if they say, that they had a double mastectomy, or is on an extreme medication, that is crucial to her/its/their health, and they have already with this Dr. checks healthy book and knows, that it is a L5, then, I will either jump it across or answer so the best that I can.

""The huge majority of the women produces more than enough milk. Tatsan abundance of milk usually is ächlich. Most babies, who win too slowly, or decreases, you don\'t do so because that of enough mother doesn\'t have milk, but because the baby doesn\'t get the milk, that the mother has. This usual reason that the baby doesn\'t get, the milk is, that is available, that he/it is latched badly on the breast. DiesDies is why it is so important, thereß of the mother, on the first day, as clicking shut a baby right on it is, is shown by somebody, that knows, which they do."", Dr. Jack Newman

""The most usual causes of milk delivers, problems are rare feedings und/oder bad Klinken-auf and positioning; both normally is because of insufficient information, that is prepared for the nursing mother. The Sto look of problems on the Säugling\'s-Teil, action milk supply also conserves negatively."", La Leche League

through rach i, everyone concerning never would attack what they chose to nourish her/its/their child. but if somebody asks a question, again: bf\'ing the answer is, thereß breastmilk the absolute best matter is, you can do OVER EACH OTHER PARENTING-ENTSCHEIDUNG for your child.

Mothers, who are incapable, to nurse are very rare. Nature intended, thereß we our newborns and somebody of info seeking with the most perfect meal looked after. thereover should be escorted to her/its/their next Le Leche-Verband leader.

often Drs. gives you to new mommies dreadful advice. : (

through? Bugsey? see, thats which formula is dafür.


if Mamas-JARGON nurses. but that is ONLY 1 percent of mommies, therefore wei,ß I much, that they lie, because they feel guilty.

I, that formula chooses, make critiscize-Mamas if they are completely capable for the quiet. there never is a good reason dafür.
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from Emily E, I nurse all 3 of my children and loved it! I never have somebody on here this couldn niedergelegt\'t or würde not. My cousin wanted to it, but könnte not, because she/it had inverted nipples, and it was not the pain and a crying child worth to continue to take the trouble to bring him/it to snap on it. Another cousin also wanted, but had wouldn\'t profit weight sufficiently not milk and its baby. The doctor forced her/it/them to give one bottle to the baby. I make over my friend funny, that a while for as a nurse would work, but as soon as she/it gets didn\'t, those weigh after over the 6. Week badly special full breast, she/it würde decides, that she/it had milk sufficiently not and gave bottles! But she/it is my mate, not any stranger, of the help seeks!

through dont, you touch me un completely certainly she/it, that attack those, that are incapable, arent only those, that are too lazy,

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I know, what you my, I go to formula feed, because I know, my baby nursing would stress me too much. I kann\'t erträgt it, if people take the trouble to reduce me, or says, that breast is the best, that it makes me sick. It doesn\'t give silence to way more important matters in the world to worry for this!

from Damien, Poppie & Alexis mommy

Because of his/its low class hid answer

i agrees! not all women are f to breast feedähig! it could be, because she/it unfähig is to be produced, or that the baby is incapable for any reason! People müssen grows up and stops to pick on on other people because she/it nurses dont/cant!

through sanctifying radio

Because of his/its low class hid answer

Even if they can produce breastmilk, it is a woman\'s election. If she/it is, much too uncomfortably, in order to make ihn/es, or finds it then much to painful, thereß people her/its/their back should leave. Maybe there nothing quite as good as breastmilk, but there are many good alternatives.

through tedrfand...

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100 percent with you.
You/they buzz as they informed each one, which to do, is. Blah blah blah, you Brust-gefüttert ich\'m glad about you. Give advice, Don, t-Vortrag, thats as I like to word matters. IS MY BABY, IS MY CHOICE, YOU/THEY GET ANOTHER HOBBY. Formula is no satans-Milch, you asked a question thereover, why they curse, & she/it still comes... \'I did it\'... is \'a real mother würdee the single matter does.. she/it can curse, so you can I.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!!! nursing of tyrants. I told my last midwife as she/it asked me, as I intended, too ern meheads, my still unborn child (me) \'d hardly smooths, got in in the door of my booking, in and she/it began \'as I had have my first baby, that I was an unsophisticated 21 year old 10 year later, myself a completely normal one, cleverly, glad beautiful girl & I will feed this baby the same way, bottle\'. she/it didn\'t says none more. Despots, the lot of them. A last thought, you wanted, one of these controls freeks in order to be HER/ITS/THEIR mother according to law & You/they is a woman, who had born only the grandchild? God in the heaven, you imagine it... \'no, I won\'t nurse.\' you würden itself the baby secretly nurses, if you always were annoyed, she/it, to let enough babysit.

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